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« Reply #40 on: 14 January 2006, 15:59:14 »

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Not every people that like the same music also like the other things that are involved with this music...if Tjeerd doesn't like Poe's works, it isn't a guilt... :)
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« Reply #41 on: 14 January 2006, 18:11:06 »

I realize these are opinions but upon reading I have to totally disagree with Belruol.  First I would say the vocals are more less deathly or evil than the blackish shrieks we are used to hearing on Beyond The Veil.  Kjetil's vocals are more reminscent of some sort of hardcore/death hybrid.   As for the album being dominated by growls, I thought Beyond the Veil had more extreme vocals than this personally.  I mean once you get past Libre and MAYBE The Wretched, the growls aren't dominant at all.  It just starts off uncharacteristically heavy for Tristania.  

Is there any room for TJOE in this Morten Veland altar by chance eternally admired overqueen?   :lol:
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« Reply #42 on: 16 January 2006, 21:09:50 »

I love the Album "Ashes"
The athmosphere it submits is so wonderful to me.
Of course it is very difficult to previous albums, but i'm glad that they went a new way.
I like the older albums, too, especially World of Glass, but Ashes is something special to me, it represents my mood and feelings.
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« Reply #43 on: 19 January 2006, 19:36:27 »

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Is there any room for TJOE in this Morten Veland altar by chance eternally admired overqueen?   :lol:
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there's plenty of room for everyone. XP
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« Reply #44 on: 14 February 2006, 02:04:06 »

I don't agree that Ashes has all of Tristania's charachteristic elements. It has lost a lot and the "stripped" sound has inevitably lead to a lesser quality album IMO.
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« Reply #45 on: 14 February 2006, 08:32:25 »

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I don't agree that Ashes has all of Tristania's charachteristic elements. It has lost a lot and the "stripped" sound has inevitably lead to a lesser quality album IMO.
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« Reply #46 on: 14 February 2006, 11:57:22 »

I don't...
the "stripped" sound is just not as accessible than previous records... Ashes is more weird, complex... but still 100% Tristania and not less quality.... imho...
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« Reply #47 on: 15 February 2006, 10:34:31 »

definetly not end of the cycle  :P
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« Reply #48 on: 15 February 2006, 17:34:56 »

hehe no.. more the begin of a new one... :)
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« Reply #49 on: 22 July 2006, 00:53:10 »

Don't worry, Illumination is coming in September!!!!!  :D
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« Reply #50 on: 22 July 2006, 05:11:21 »

Ashes is totally amazing! The song structures might seem stripped down comparing to the other albums but emotionally, it's definitely the least direct album Tristania had ever released. Keep an open mind, you'll see the atmosphere in the music is beyond brilliance. The more I listen to it, the more I love it.  In fact it's one of the freshest sounding Goth album I have ever heard. Do you realise how many bands are releasing so called symphonic albums that are saturated with keyboards and angelic female vocals which sound cheesy and cliched these days? Tristania did not follow that trend, instead they chose the opposite path. Vibeke's dreamy vocals fit into the album very well, it just amazes me every time I listen to Ashes. Once again they have created a unique atmospheric masterpiece. How can you not love it?
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« Reply #51 on: 22 July 2006, 09:32:00 »

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Don't worry, Illumination is coming in September!!!!!  :D
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it's delayed...

@ychi: I ask myself the same.. but there are quite many people who just love their old work...
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« Reply #52 on: 22 July 2006, 14:18:03 »

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it's delayed...

@ychi: I ask myself the same.. but there are quite many people who just love their old work...
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Ohh,  :(  I'm so excited
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« Reply #53 on: 23 July 2006, 02:04:07 »

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it's delayed...

@ychi: I ask myself the same.. but there are quite many people who just love their old work...
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I love their old works too esp. BTV but that doesn't stop me from loving Ashes. I guess people just need to be more open minded. Sometimes I wonder if most people listen to these goth bands just for the symphonic sounds and angelic female vocals. I mean if you are in for atmosphere and emotions, Ashes has so much more to offer. Given enough time, I hope more people will appreciate it.




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« Reply #54 on: 23 July 2006, 09:20:28 »

yeah.. the problem is... they just listen to Ashes once probably... never again...
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« Reply #55 on: 23 July 2006, 13:03:31 »

@ychi: Agree too. Ashes was the hardest to get used to, but it's much more complex than it looks. Songs like Bird, Endogenisis go so many directions....
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« Reply #56 on: 23 July 2006, 21:09:56 »

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I love their old works too esp. BTV but that doesn't stop me from loving Ashes. I guess people just need to be more open minded. Sometimes I wonder if most people listen to these goth bands just for the symphonic sounds and angelic female vocals. I mean if you are in for atmosphere and emotions, Ashes has so much more to offer. Given enough time, I hope more people will appreciate it.
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You're right Ychi!!!!Ashes is a little jewel,and in the right atmosphere and mood it can give a lot of strong emotions.
I've listened to it thousand times but I still have shivers on my back everytime.
I like the band's new style,so different from previous albums.
Like you,I hope more people will appreciate it for what it is: a great album.
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« Reply #57 on: 23 July 2006, 23:19:05 »

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yeah.. the problem is... they just listen to Ashes once probably... never again...
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Then, it's their lost in my book.

@ Christine and Lordhong: I'm glad you share my view too.


I think this has something to do with a person's state of mind and expectations. A few years ago, I would have a very different opinion, I probably wouldn't like Ashes at all. ;)

We'll see... in a few years time...   B)



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« Reply #58 on: 24 July 2006, 00:04:21 »

I personally love every album that Tristania has done equally. I mean, what bands do you know that sound almost exactly like them? They've created epic music that has a unique sound. I also love the song Libre too. The reason I like them so much is because they continue to make fresh music for every album they've put out. I hate when bands put out 5 albums that sound exactly the same. It gets boring.
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« Reply #59 on: 26 July 2006, 20:40:08 »

well, they definitly lost most of their symphonic qualities.
hopefully they veer more bck to WOG with illumination.
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