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Which do u prefer?

Ashes
- 57 (76%)
An Elixr for Existence
- 18 (24%)

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« on: 09 June 2005, 23:40:51 »

Well, before Ashes was released may used to compare both sirenia albums (AEFE and ASAS) to WoG and say they r much better (which i don't really concur with)

But now that tristanias latest baby has been set loose (Ashes) and even though its totaly different than sirenia's style, i was wondering which do u prefer?

Personally i prefer Ashes WAY WAY more than AEFE, Ashes is more like the old tristania than AEFE will ever be, Kj, Vibeke and Osten along with the drums and anders awesome riffs create an enviroment, and although i loved AEFE, but when i listen to it and compare it to Ashes, Ashes just dominates it, IMHO (guitars, vocals and drums are much better on Ashes)
The only thing that i prefer in AEFE over Ashes is the Violin, i sure missed it
And i wish the next sirenia and tristania albums would be more like BTV
well anyways thats jsut my opinon, hwo bout urs?
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« Reply #1 on: 10 June 2005, 06:06:54 »

well i can't say i explored An Elixir for Existence as much as i ecplored Ashes but i'm certainly able to compare. i must agree with you, Black Wings; Ashes kicks the ass of An Elixir for Existence by far... i enjoy a lot more Ashes because it's better worked and better produced. the songs are also a lot more varied and i really love the organic feeling! Ashes was certainly a surprise after WoG. AEFE was somewhat predictable... i really like the direction Tristania are taking so i would prefer them to follow it and not do something similar to Beyond the Veil. BtV was special, beautiful, monumental but i wouldn't like to hear another one... i don't appreciate a band that keeps repeting the same album a duzine of times, and this is why i love Tristania so much! all their albums are different, unique... Sirenia is a good band as well but it can't reach the place Tristania has managed to win in my heart ...
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« Reply #2 on: 10 June 2005, 06:17:15 »

AEFE sounds quite unispired to me... have no special vocalists, the violin is no more enchanting... etc.

ASAS was much better imho... but I even prefered World of Glass.. :)
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« Reply #3 on: 10 June 2005, 07:34:29 »

Guys,why we have to compare albums from 2 different bands.Ok i prefer Ashes but as i see it,from Tristania was created another great band,Sirenia.And that's good for the genre generally... :)
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« Reply #4 on: 10 June 2005, 12:38:00 »

Humans always compare things... :)
yeah... it was the best solution for both sides...:)
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« Reply #5 on: 10 June 2005, 13:44:30 »

I agree.
I like Sirenia very much and LOVE Tristania!!!

I sinceraly prefer Ashes, but I didn't vote cause I like An Elixir for Existence a lot too
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« Reply #6 on: 10 June 2005, 15:33:02 »

The reason, i made this post because in past posts in these forums a couple comapred AEFE and ASAS to WoG and kept saying its better, while i kept saying wait for Tristanias next album and then we would comapre Tristania to Sirenia
And i beleive Tristania have proven supreme
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« Reply #7 on: 10 June 2005, 17:26:40 »

Ok.I'm glad that others have the same point of view :)
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« Reply #8 on: 11 June 2005, 01:36:41 »

Hm, what would Morten think about that topic? :)))
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« Reply #9 on: 11 June 2005, 07:29:09 »

mm,, morten is over rated in my opinion,  alot of ppl r always saying tristania is over, this is a new tristania the real tristania is within sirenia as if tristania is just morten veland, he is a good composer i give u that, but enuff is enuff
Ashes is way more better than any sirenia release, its has chemistry it has magic and thus proving tristania isnt just morten
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« Reply #10 on: 11 June 2005, 08:58:36 »

I don't like to compare but I prefer ashes.
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« Reply #11 on: 11 June 2005, 09:15:16 »

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mm,, morten is over rated in my opinion,  alot of ppl r always saying tristania is over, this is a new tristania the real tristania is within sirenia as if tristania is just morten veland, he is a good composer i give u that, but enuff is enuff
Ashes is way more better than any sirenia release, its has chemistry it has magic and thus proving tristania isnt just morten
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« Reply #12 on: 11 June 2005, 10:09:48 »

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totally agree!
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too... I don't think he'll release a magical, extraordinary album any more... and Sirenia lacks of extraordinary singers, musicians too imho...
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« Reply #13 on: 11 June 2005, 11:40:46 »

defenetly Ashes sounds cooler that An elixir for existence, but I like the last one too!
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« Reply #14 on: 11 June 2005, 15:18:34 »

The fact that we are here, talking frequently about Tristania's thing, concerts, photos, releases... made us real fans!
We are not satisfy only going in concerts, buying cds and watching a new video!
We want to know Tristania closer!
So, if guys like us said that Tristania is alive without Morten, making song large better than Sirenia... in my opinion, this is what all is about!
People who said Tristania is dead after Morten, is the same guys who don't know nothing about the band, neither how much album it has!

I like Sirenia and Morten... but saying Tristania is only Morten Veland is a depressing thought, sorry.
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« Reply #15 on: 11 June 2005, 15:47:57 »

I like Sirenia very much. I like AEOE very much.
But I prefer Tristania, that is my love ever,  :D  and "Ashes", even that I hate to compare such different things.
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« Reply #16 on: 11 June 2005, 21:58:43 »

Nicely said Peccatorum :)
Morten is an awesome composer, but personally i think that he is tallented only in things like BTV and WWeeds,  while tristania is about many ideas forming a single and unique release which is totaly different than the before, while morten is the opposite, thats is why they split in the end =\
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« Reply #17 on: 12 June 2005, 09:26:34 »

There I agree on. I fell in love with BTV and WW and neither post-Tristania Morten or post-Morten Tristania has convinced me that any of them is better than the other. IMO Tristania in its original form (with Morten) was the best thing that ever happened to gothic music IMO, but things happened as they did... I was really happy when I found out that Veland is working on a new band and I am also a big fan or Sirenia, but there is just something missing in there... And the same goes with Tristania, WoG was a really good album IMO, and so is Ashes, but there is still something I miss in Ashes.... So neither Morten itself or other Tristania members itself has convinced me as they did when they were together...

Going to the albums, I chose Ashes. Both albums have impressed me in a very similar way, there are only a few songs on each album that I absolutely love and the others are just average. But those *amazing songs* which struck me the most are much powerful on Ashes, I spent far more time in getting into Ashes and overall, the only thing that I really miss on Ashes is maybe more profound lyrics and choirs, whilst AEFE on some spots gives an impression of emptiness and is sometimes even repetitive.

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« Reply #18 on: 12 June 2005, 09:58:12 »

I totally agree with you Darth-Angina i would love more  profound lyrics and choirs and violin,
But then again, i think of mortens departure positively, or else would have copies of BTV or maybe less quality and no real inguinty like ashes (sorry for my terrible spelling)
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« Reply #19 on: 12 June 2005, 16:09:35 »

I agree with you, Black Swans. Morten's talent is based in thing like Beyond the Veil... when Tristania wanted to do something diffenrent, the best choice was slit out!
Two terrific band were born!
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