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« on: 12 April 2005, 04:19:08 »

I've heard so many great things about tristania and now I want to buy one of their albums. So can you guys please tell me which one I should start off with, or which is your favorite. I heard that BTV was their best but I would like to know your opinions so I don't waste my money.
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« Reply #1 on: 12 April 2005, 06:53:25 »

No Tristania Album is waste of money... all are great... all are different... but BTV is their most-liked I suppose, thats true...

Hmm.. probably you should listen to samples at Amazon or the Tristania homepage, even if they are unable to represent the whole songs... but you get the general style I suppose...
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« Reply #2 on: 12 April 2005, 06:58:03 »

You might want to check out this thread in the cross-album discussion section. There's a poll about everybody's favorite Tristania album.
Beyond the Veil is ahead, but it still depends a lot on your personal taste. My favorite is their lastes album (ASHES). But I think all of their music is great. So I recommend you to listen to the music before you buy an album.
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« Reply #3 on: 12 April 2005, 11:00:41 »

Or best solution: You buy them all... *g*
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« Reply #4 on: 12 April 2005, 11:31:34 »

I agree with Deadlocked, Buy them all :D
But as for Beyond The Veil, It`s not their best album, I`d say try WOG or Ashes

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« Reply #5 on: 12 April 2005, 14:34:17 »

I think its difficult to say which one is the best!!..... First, I though WoG, because it was the one I knew better and had listen to more times. But after listening to the others.... well.... dunno! They can all be the best, depending on your point of view, on your humour or the state of your life, the memories they bring,..... All of them have beautiful songs, some of them considered classics!
Maybe the best thing to do is really do a general listening to the material and try to pick the most appropriate for you at the time.
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« Reply #6 on: 12 April 2005, 16:44:27 »

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I've heard so many great things about tristania and now I want to buy one of their albums. So can you guys please tell me which one I should start off with, or which is your favorite. I heard that BTV was their best but I would like to know your opinions so I don't waste my money.
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It depends on your music taste and where do you musicaly come from :)
If you like more simple music which is more direct then you would like ASHES
If you like slow but symphonic music - then WORLD OF GLASS is your choice
If you like more rock oriented metal with all symphonic elements - BEYOND THE VEIL is for you
And if you like more simple and slow, then WIDOW'S WEEDS is the choice for an "not polished diamond" :)
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« Reply #7 on: 12 April 2005, 17:42:27 »

Hmm... Ashes is far away from simple imho... just not so many elements used... but definitely no "easy listening"... and nevertheless very complex... :)
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« Reply #8 on: 12 April 2005, 18:32:22 »

Everyone had much to say, I'm gonna keep it simple:

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I heard that BTV was their best but I would like to know your opinions
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Yes, BTV is their best album.

Period.  :lol:

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« Reply #9 on: 12 April 2005, 20:21:22 »

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Everyone had much to say, I'm gonna keep it simple:
Yes, BTV is their best album.

Period.  :lol:
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Thanks guys for your opinions. I think I've made my decision. But which album features the least amount of death vocals and more of the female vocals?
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« Reply #10 on: 12 April 2005, 20:28:41 »

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Hmm... Ashes is far away from simple imho... just not so many elements used... but definitely no "easy listening"... and nevertheless very complex... :)
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Yes, but it's not hard to play in compare to other things :)
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« Reply #11 on: 12 April 2005, 20:42:27 »

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Thanks guys for your opinions. I think I've made my decision. But which album features the least amount of death vocals and more of the female vocals?
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Weedow's Weeds: Growls: 50 % Vibeke 35 % 15 % Oesten
Beyond The Veil: Growls: 40 % Vibeke 30 % Oesten 30 %
World of Glass: Growls: 30 % Vibeke 37 % Oesten 33 %
Ashes: Growls 30 % Vibeke 35 % Oestenn 35 %
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« Reply #12 on: 13 April 2005, 00:04:40 »

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Thanks guys for your opinions. I think I've made my decision. But which album features the least amount of death vocals and more of the female vocals?
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Out of the blue I'd say that World of Glass has the least amount of extreme vocals and the highest amount of Vibeke's vocals, and (ASHES) has the highest amount of ุsten's (clean) vocals, but the least amount of Vibeke's vocals.
But I think they were trying to give each vocalist the same amount of vocals since Beyond the Veil. There's little of ุsten on Widow's weeds. He was just a guest vocalist back then.
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« Reply #13 on: 13 April 2005, 17:14:22 »

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Out of the blue I'd say that World of Glass has the least amount of extreme vocals and the highest amount of Vibeke's vocals, and (ASHES) has the highest amount of ุsten's (clean) vocals, but the least amount of Vibeke's vocals.
But I think they were trying to give each vocalist the same amount of vocals since Beyond the Veil. There's little of ุsten on Widow's weeds. He was just a guest vocalist back then.
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... But there is no song where we can hear ุsten only :)
But there are 3 songs (Cure, Deadlocked, The Modern End) sung by Vibeke
And one song with just grunts (Lost) :)
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« Reply #14 on: 13 April 2005, 20:24:58 »

It's hard to say... it depends most on your own musical taste, because almost each album has it's own sound... like Konny said!  :lol:

If you like the heavy guitars und a and a minimum of keyboard use, go for Ashes.
For electronics and much symphonics World Of Glass.
Beyond The Veil an Widow's Weeds are most orchestrated, while WW is a bit slower I think.

They're all very good, so it's up to your taste. If you can't decide though, go for Ashes. Just to see how great they are now! *g*

PS: I would also say WOG for the female vocals. Nevertheless, who really dislikes death vocals won't be pleased with any album I think. For this, leave it (or better: try to like the death vocals *g*).
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« Reply #15 on: 13 April 2005, 22:31:31 »

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I've heard so many great things about tristania and now I want to buy one of their albums. So can you guys please tell me which one I should start off with, or which is your favorite. I heard that BTV was their best but I would like to know your opinions so I don't waste my money.
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I really don't advise buying anything until you've heard it first, especially if you're strapped for cash.  I do it, and though some of my impulse buys have turned out to be eons better than I expected, a lot go the exact opposite way.

So, I'll go along with the crowd and say it depends on your taste.  For me, I was introduced to Tristania with World of Glass, and having thoroughly enjoyed it, and after hearing all the wonderful things about Beyond The Veil, I quickly bought that album.  However, the HUGE difference in sound meant that it took me quite a while to acclimate myself to BTV.  It is now my absolute favorite album of any band of any genre.  But I had to learn to accept the growls and such, which now I enjoy, but did not care for at the time.  So, here's what I'll tell you:

If you want keyboard-driven and lush, go for Widow's Weeds.  It's made mostly out of simple but engaging melodies, and has a very archaic and very beautiful sound.  If it has any drawbacks, there are some *minor* production flaws (i.e., drums are barely audible at times), and some of the melodies seem to be recurring.  And if you don't like the growls, then this one certainly isn't for you.

Beyond The Veil is probably the most straightforward, in-your-face wall of sound that Tristania has done.  It's mostly guitar-driven, with the keyboards used for melody and ambience and to create a more proactive sonic environment.  Again, mostly growls, but I think the vocal interplay is at its most disciplined and appropriate on this album.  The vocal arrangements seem to be designed to fit the atmosphere and lyrics instead of trying to showcase each vocalist's individual talents.

The World of Glass album reduces the growling and goes back to a keyboard-driven environment, but it goes from a romantic/medieval-type sound to an underworld-ish, somewhat electronic environment.  It has a nice even split of growls, female vocals, male vocals, and choirs.  A lot of the 'hardcore' old-guard fans look down upon it, since it was such a drastic change.  So, expect something different.

And finally, Ashes is the one you want if you hate keyboards and only want guitars.  This one, as much as I try to like it, just does not strike my fancy, save for two songs.  It has a more distant, detached feeling to it; the layering is cut back drastically, so the arrangements aren't so "busy."  This makes it a lot more accessible, but also takes away some of the emotion in the previous albums.  Vocally, it's a decent mixture of the three (no choirs this time).

Hope this helps a bit.  But I think it'd be best if you got some samples to hear first.  Or, just buy the whole collection!  :)
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« Reply #16 on: 17 July 2005, 17:20:36 »

yeah BTV are an amazing album but the great problem with it are Sirenia and you will understand my point of view.

Morten quit the band but the style of Sirenia are really similar at BTV and it's normal and that make a big amount of album yes of great quality but with the same touch. That why i prefer World of Glass for many reason !

It's the beginning of the after Morten and the style the band will keep.
World of Glass are superior because he contains a great equivalence in all kind of vocal and a great power. Wonderful ambiance more keybord !!! I really like the Vibeke voice and if she can be a little more present in the futur album i will be the happiest man on earth ;)

I'm not a purist and it's normal World of glass are different because Morten are not there but i think it's for the best. Less agressive and more passional this world of glass !  more choir and i like it  :D
like i said all point of view are good and all taste are in the nature  :rolleyes:

The Modern end rules a lot too !! but before someone told me to talk of this in the section World of Glasse i will stop :P
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« Reply #17 on: 23 August 2005, 01:20:22 »

BTV is my favourite Tristania ablum, it has a very special atmosphere. also Widow's Weeds is excelent.
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« Reply #18 on: 31 August 2005, 14:56:55 »

Beyond The Veil is THE Tristania Album imho...
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« Reply #19 on: 07 September 2005, 14:48:21 »

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Beyond The Veil is THE Tristania Album imho...
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I agree...totally
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