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Cirithian

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« on: 07 February 2005, 12:47:36 »

Hello to you all.

I asked this question in "Ask the Band" section awhile ago, but since I'm sure there's not going to be any replies on there I ask it here. Maybe you can help me out. Latin isn't really my strong point.

So basically I'd like to know all the latin names of the songs on BTV. What do they mean? Please, tell me. I'm a total buffoon when it comes to searching information on the net. So I thought this might be the most convinient way for me.

Pretty please....  :unsure:
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« Reply #1 on: 07 February 2005, 13:05:31 »

What I can guess:

Dementia is chronic loss of mental capacity due to an organic cause

Simbelm˙ne is some sort of grass as written in Lord of the Rings, not latin.

And Angina is when your heart muscle doesn't get enough blood. ;)

Heretique -> heretic (someone with other opinions than a religious dogma)
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« Reply #2 on: 07 February 2005, 15:01:38 »

According to my Latin Dictionary... ;)

Dementia - nonsense or madness/insanity

Simbelm˙ne - dont know, but Tjeerd seems to be right

Angina - well, sore throat *g*

Heretique - mmhhh... heresy or blasphemy
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« Reply #3 on: 07 February 2005, 19:19:14 »

Well, thanks about those. Really I'm not really a language person.

But I'm still wondering about the "Aphelion" and "Opus Relinque"...
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« Reply #4 on: 07 February 2005, 19:28:02 »

Relinque means left afaik...so probably the left opus...
Don't really know how to translate opus... but I suppose opus is known by everyone...
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« Reply #5 on: 07 February 2005, 20:05:47 »

Aphelion isn't Latin.  It's the day when the sun is farthest from the Earth.
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« Reply #6 on: 07 February 2005, 20:40:24 »

Aphelion - maigan is correct ;) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aphelion

Opus Relique - the ending of "Relique" wonders me, grammatically it doesn't make sense^^ But it would be "The Remaining Work" I would say...
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« Reply #7 on: 07 February 2005, 20:55:26 »

Aphelion is a point where a planet is the farthest from the sun as it cirlces around it.

Opus Relinque  - The collection of the forsakened  

Lethean River - a river in Underworld in Greek mythology

Symbelmine - a delicate, small flower with white blossom, also know as forget-me-not or myosotis

Angina (Pectoris) is a hard disease, when a person's heart does not recieve as much oxygen as it needs

Heretique - Heretic

Dementia - Insanity

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« Reply #8 on: 07 February 2005, 23:13:44 »

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Opus Relinque  - The collection of the forsakened 
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Interesting version! :-) Where'd you got it? If it's self-translated (which would wonder me because you didn't wrote you speak Latin), please explain me! :)

PS: Oooops, I thougt it was Relique (without the "n"), but it doesn't make much sense to this translation to me as well.  :P
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« Reply #9 on: 08 February 2005, 19:36:11 »

@Minstrel: I found the explanation for the word relinque in a dictionary or some book, I don't speak latin. But that was quite some time ago, so I hope I didn't mixed the meaning of this word with any other; but as I do recall relinque means forsakened, forgotten; and well we all know what opus is :)
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« Reply #10 on: 08 February 2005, 19:47:02 »

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Aphelion is a point where a planet is the farthest from the sun as it cirlces around it.

Opus Relinque  - The collection of the forsakened 

Lethean River - a river in Underworld in Greek mythology

Symbelmine - a delicate, small flower with white blossom, also know as forget-me-not or myosotis

Angina (Pectoris) is a hard disease, when a person's heart does not recieve as much oxygen as it needs

Heretique - Heretic

Dementia - Insanity

Yepp.
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As a person with medical experience......my playmate is a nurse B) ...female, smart ass B)

Angina as in pectoris is indeed a condition of chest pain  secondary to insufficient oxygenation of the myocardium (heart)....cool huh?

BUT...... Angina can also be a synonym for "strangulation or suffocation" I'm thinking this is the context intended for said song. I would hardly thing Vibeke's lyrics would be:

Angina strikes the myocardium
A small white nitro takes the pain away,   so that I can stay   relatively healthy.
(does it fit?) in the verse? <_<

In the context of ANGINA STRIKING ELYSIUM..... perhaps a strangulation or suffocation of the land/place/plane of dead heroes/nobles?

Sounds good to me.

And that boys and girls is Cardiac Maladies 101 and Metaphorical Synonyms 100 for today :P
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« Reply #11 on: 08 February 2005, 20:21:55 »

I have interpretated ''Angina stikes Elysium'' always as a interaction of Angina as Angina Pectoris - heart disease, therefore heartache and Elysium as happines... So when your heart is struck (in a methaphoric way, like when losing a beloved one) your bliss crushes down... But that's just the way I get it, don't call me stupid :D
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« Reply #12 on: 08 February 2005, 21:15:36 »

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But that's just the way I get it, don't call me stupid :D
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 I would never even consider calling you that!


I might get into trouble with uh.......mmm I might get another special pm   :ph34r:
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« Reply #13 on: 28 February 2005, 16:14:43 »

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What I can guess:

Dementia is chronic loss of mental capacity due to an organic cause

Simbelm˙ne is some sort of grass as written in Lord of the Rings, not latin.

And Angina is when your heart muscle doesn't get enough blood. ;)

Heretique -> heretic (someone with other opinions than a religious dogma)
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I have interpretated ''Angina stikes Elysium'' always as a interaction of Angina as Angina Pectoris - heart disease, therefore heartache and Elysium as happines... So when your heart is struck (in a methaphoric way, like when losing a beloved one) your bliss crushes down... But that's just the way I get it, don't call me stupid

Actually Angina is used to name a desease, but the root of that word means "Tightness, constriction, total limitedness, narrowness,  and also depression" :) So it's obviosly used in the song not in the meaning of deasease but in the meaning of limitedness and depression
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« Reply #14 on: 01 March 2005, 11:51:46 »

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Actually Angina is used to name a desease, but the root of that word means "Tightness, constriction, total limitedness, narrowness,  and also depression" :) So it's obviosly used in the song not in the meaning of deasease but in the meaning of limitedness and depression
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I agree. If i don't remember bad, i found it on my latin dictionary and the first meaning was "anguish"

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« Reply #15 on: 04 March 2005, 21:51:38 »

Well... thanks for all of ye for thy assistance. That surely cleared things up.
I bow before thine superior knowledge...
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« Reply #16 on: 06 March 2005, 23:03:15 »

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Aphelion isn't Latin.  It's the day when the sun is farthest from the Earth.
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That's true, it's greek :)
Ap (From) Helion (The Sun) (farthest to Sun)
When the Earth is in Aphelion - then we have summer :)

Perihelion
Peri (Before) Helion (The Sun) - Closest to Sun
The Earth in Perihelion means that we have winter
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« Reply #17 on: 15 August 2005, 12:08:43 »

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Aphelion - maigan is correct ;) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aphelion

Opus Relique - the ending of "Relique" wonders me, grammatically it doesn't make sense^^ But it would be "The Remaining Work" I would say...
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It does make sense :D It imperative form from "reqlinquo, relinquere, reliqui, relictum" - and it menas "Leave my work/opus". That's all :)
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« Reply #18 on: 18 August 2005, 08:51:34 »

I take those information by a book that i studied in high school...i hope the traslation is right! If you want other information for particualry gods or greek name, tell it to me, I'll find them surely...


Lethean river= Is in the Greek Hereafter, the "River of Oblivion", which waters, drunk from the souls bounded to reincarnate in new boidie, erases the remembrance of their past life. In OLYMPUS, lethean goddes, the "oblivion", the " forgetfulness", is the daughter of ERIS, the Discord. Some sources attribute to her (lethean) the motherhood of CARITI (Gracies in latin), the sons of ZEUS, and probbaly also of DYONISIUM, probably because he is the god of vine, which fruits give the oblivion.


Stygian River= According to some sources she is the oldier of the nymphes of the Oceans, for others, she is the daughter of EREBO (the male principle of primitive darkness) and NUX (the Night). She is an infernal goddes, a solitary inhabitant of TARTAR. From the rocks of her residence flows the poisonous water called "Stygian river", that other gods use for solemn oaths. It represents the Underworld and the Hereafter. Its name means "Hateful", "Horrid".  


Aphelion= is right the explanation of Emperor Konny, but the right origin si "APO"+"HELIOS" (apo= nearer to, closer to, helios= the sun).


 :)  :)  :)  :)  :)  ;)  ;)  ;)  ;)  ;)
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« Reply #19 on: 05 September 2007, 07:16:59 »

I understood Opus Relinque to mean a deed to leave behind...
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