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What is he saying?!!?
« on: 04 October 2004, 18:36:02 »

ok here goes.

in "...of Ruins and a Red Nightfall", between the 3rd and 4th verse,  at 3:09 minutes the vocalist says something blurry which i cant understand and its not in the lyrics! help me figure out this hidden message!

for all i know it could be:
1) nothing of meaning
2) a Satanic worshipping chant
or 3) and i quote: "Washu Misa Kila Silavas".

this is afterall one of my favourite songs (after Angina and Aphelion) on the album and i walk around mumbling #3 all day long!

save me from my misery.

Thy Carrion Kind.
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« Reply #1 on: 06 November 2004, 12:34:14 »

"Summon the starlight gloss in which thou rage..."

It's backmasked...if you pay it backwards it sounds very proper and in the same way as in the next lines where it is said forward (with music), but when done backwards it's a lot different sounding. Definitely one of my fav parts in the song.

I wish someone would post Vibeke's lyrics that aren't in the booklet. Especially the ballad / soft part of "Beyond The Veil" in the first sections. Or the chanting on "Lethean River" or something.
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« Reply #2 on: 06 November 2004, 15:53:21 »

The first words the Vibeke says in Beyond the Veil are these:
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Not fear, nor tears can reach me now
the light seems so clear as the night fades away
Behold of thy flame, below of all shame
Come conquer my sweet dreams of paradise

and in Lethean River
vibeke is in BOLD

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Rise my clandestine, thy secrecies invoked
Streams of argentine across eyelids are drawn
Rise upon the tide, my castaway's outworn
Fall from distant worlds and redeyed skies above
Gesture of an argentine moisture
like snow upon the riverine
Gesture of an argentine moisture
so sore upon congeal skin
Ardency of life forsakened

time will gather the source of thy secrecies
Ardency of life forsakened
in swarthy hours thou ponder still
Invoke thy aeons in a dream
entrancing sleep
profound and prolix
Estranged to life's utility
Bequest thy endurance in the times of lethargic
Lead me down in wailing hours
to the riverside
Reveal to me thy secrecies
hidden in the wan deep of thy infinite mourning
Lethean river carry me beneath thy riverine
- i love the ending :wub:

Need anymore? :)
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« Reply #3 on: 06 November 2004, 19:49:57 »

Greets!

I know these words...I was referring to the part in "Beyond The Veil" after Morten screams "venus through the looking glass..." that in between part that Vibeke sings in that is done twice in the song. No words exist as far as I know. I swear she says "beyond the veil..." or "venus" or something.

I don't know what I was talking about when I mentioned "Lethean River" I know all the words to that I guess it must be another track I'm thinking of. When you posted the lyrics I totally rememebered. Thanks anyway!
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« Reply #4 on: 06 November 2004, 21:27:48 »

Their is actually the latin parts of Opus Relinque i wanna know about ...
I listened to both songs agian and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again but got no where ...
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What is he saying?!!?
« Reply #5 on: 08 November 2004, 19:33:22 »

Quote from: Black Swans,Nov 6 2004, 05:53 PM
The first words the Vibeke says in Beyond the Veil are these:
and in Lethean River
vibeke is in BOLD

Quote
Rise my clandestine, thy secrecies invoked
Streams of argentine across eyelids are drawn
Rise upon the tide, my castaway's outworn
Fall from distant worlds and redeyed skies above
Gesture of an argentine moisture
like snow upon the riverine
Gesture of an argentine moisture
so sore upon congeal skin
Ardency of life forsakened

time will gather the source of thy secrecies
Ardency of life forsakened
in swarthy hours thou ponder still
Invoke thy aeons in a dream
entrancing sleep
profound and prolix
Estranged to life's utility
Bequest thy endurance in the times of lethargic
Lead me down in wailing hours
to the riverside
Reveal to me thy secrecies
hidden in the wan deep of thy infinite mourning
Lethean river carry me beneath thy riverine
- i love the ending :wub:

Need anymore? :)
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But... those words ARE on the booklet... no?
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« Reply #6 on: 20 October 2005, 13:34:14 »

I love the end too!!!! :P
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Re: What is he saying?!!?
« Reply #7 on: 28 June 2008, 09:45:12 »

ok here goes.

in "...of Ruins and a Red Nightfall", between the 3rd and 4th verse,  at 3:09 minutes the vocalist says something blurry which i cant understand and its not in the lyrics! help me figure out this hidden message!

for all i know it could be:
1) nothing of meaning
2) a Satanic worshipping chant
or 3) and i quote: "Washu Misa Kila Silavas".

this is afterall one of my favourite songs (after Angina and Aphelion) on the album and i walk around mumbling #3 all day long!

save me from my misery.

Thy Carrion Kind.

I don't know
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« Reply #8 on: 21 July 2008, 18:36:53 »

I'm sorta new to the board so forgive me if it ain't the best place for my post, it sure beats starting a new topic  ;D .
 Anyway, in Of Ruins and a Red Nightfall, Morten mentions the 'Winterwinds', I believe they come up in several other songs, would love to know what they are, or "IS"  ??? ...
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Re: What is he saying?!!?
« Reply #9 on: 23 July 2008, 22:03:44 »

ok here goes.

in "...of Ruins and a Red Nightfall", between the 3rd and 4th verse,  at 3:09 minutes the vocalist says something blurry which i cant understand and its not in the lyrics! help me figure out this hidden message!

for all i know it could be:
1) nothing of meaning
2) a Satanic worshipping chant
or 3) and i quote: "Washu Misa Kila Silavas".

Come on! Everybody knows that Morten decided to expose his Marxist tendency in that part, by singing: “We shall take thee among the veils of Surplus Vale and the Hammer and the Sickle thou shall worship, o, neoliberalism’s fellow!”, a phrase which provoked a great tension between the guitarist and singer and the other members of the band, whose social and political militancy in favour of Norway’s joining to the European Union is well-known by theirs fans, who, during the “Beyond the Veil”’s Tour used to wear a t-shirt with the inscription: “Gothic followers of the Moral, Ethic and Christian Faith, respecting the civil laws and the power of the folks”. These clothes, as it’s well documented in the chronicles of the Norwegian press, were the last controversy which Morten could endure: he hastily left the band when he realised that Anders and Einar were the ones who distributed the t-shirts.

Anyway, Morten never gave up. And he kept fighting with his new band Sirenia (baptised, as we all know, as an homage to an heroic submarine of the USSR’s army, which lurked the capitalist Sweden’s costs during the ‘70s, before it was bought by the Dane government to search for oil in Denmark’s depths). As the musician himself declared at an interview with the communist branch of the CNN, the hit of his last album “Nine Destinies and a Downfall” (a title which, by the way, is a reference to a theory developed in the ‘80s by Russian philosophers about the nine possible futures of the USSR and his eminent fall; it’s not needed to aggregate that this album is a conceptual work about the last years of the communist rule in the Eastern Europe), “The Other Side”, is a story about two sisters in the frontier of a communist country in the East of Europe, one of whom is going to travel to the West in search of a better future, better than the one that her elder sister will have as she will stay in the Marxist world, which has misunderstood the commandments of Lenin and is going down day by day.
If we add to this fact the subliminal message in the chorus of the not less known song “Sundown”:

"The Marxism will have never-ending life
As the Liberalism loses the fight
The West gets old and I’m not a liar:
The workers’ reign will at last be restored”

We cannot doubt anymore about that verse of “...of Ruins and a Red Nightfall”.

I hope everything’s clear now ;).
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« Reply #10 on: 09 February 2009, 10:13:58 »

Is it all above true? I'm schocked, I've never heard about this, but it seems to be very logical. I have to study the lyrics more carefully  ;) Thanks anyway!
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Re: What is he saying?!!?
« Reply #11 on: 11 February 2009, 19:57:23 »

Nice satire there. :P
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