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Post-Rubicon lists of favourite albums
« on: 28 September 2010, 01:12:25 »

Now that Rubicon is released let's see if there has been any changes in your lists. The current on is how I feel at the moment about the albums:
 
1. Beyond the Veil, Rubicon
3. World of Glass
4. Ashes
5. Illumination
6. Widows Weeds

I based this list on the amount of tracks I really like on albums. It's 80% from the two top albums down to only a few on my least liked album (WW, with "Angellore" as standout track IMO). But the "gap" from 5 to 6 is bigger than the top 5 inbetween them.
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Re: Post-Rubicon lists of favourite albums
« Reply #1 on: 28 September 2010, 01:55:04 »

1. WoG-BtV
2. WW - Illumination
3. Ashes
4. Rubicon


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Re: Post-Rubicon lists of favourite albums
« Reply #2 on: 28 September 2010, 03:29:50 »

1) Ashes
2) World Of Glass
3) Rubicon
4) Tristania EP (yup, I like the EP version of Pale Enchantress more than the WW version, and Sirene and Cease To Exist are too great)
5) Illumination
6) Beyond The Veil
7) Widow's Weeds

Although there's little difference between the first 3 and very little between the 4th and the last, and the gap between the 3rd and the 4th is not that big, either. It mostly depends on my mood. Widow's Weeds could suit me better than the rest, it's just I'm not as moody as I was 2 years ago (when I discovered Tristania and was just beginning to listen to metal) anymore >_<
Ashes remains my top album because still nothing can beat the "wicked" trilogy, Libre-The Wretched-Circus, they are way too good, although the Exile-Sirens-Vulture trilogy is really close. But I still put WoG above Rubicon for two reasons: 1) It's the peak of the "old" Tristania sound, and one of the very best symphonic/operatic metal albums ever, in my opinion 2) It's the only Tristania album where I find no fillers at all. Even in Ashes I find Cure to be kinda boring
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Re: Post-Rubicon lists of favourite albums
« Reply #3 on: 28 September 2010, 10:15:03 »

1) Ashes / Rubicon
3) World Of Glass
4) Beyond The Veil
5) Illumination
6) Widow's Weeds
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Re: Post-Rubicon lists of favourite albums
« Reply #4 on: 29 September 2010, 03:58:39 »

1) Rubicon
2) Ashes
3) World of Glass
4) Beyond the Veil
5) Illumination
6) Widow's Weeds
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Re: Post-Rubicon lists of favourite albums
« Reply #5 on: 10 December 2010, 06:45:37 »

1) Beyond the Veil
2) Widow's weeds
3) World of Glass
4) Illumination
5) Ashes
6) Rubicon
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Re: Post-Rubicon lists of favourite albums
« Reply #6 on: 10 December 2010, 11:36:02 »

1) Beyond the Veil
2) Widow's Weed
3) Rubicon / Ashes*
4) World of Glass
5) Illumination

*I think they are two different approaches to the same style, a sort of atmospheric rock mixed with extreme metal. Rubicon is beautiful, catchy and sparkling, while Ashes as dark, brooding, creepy and evil :) I think they both achieve success!

World of Glass would be second only to Beyond the Veil if it hadn't been for a couple of weak ones. Had it been an EP with songs like Wormwood, Crushed Dreams, Deadlocked etc then it would be nr 1 :D
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Re: Post-Rubicon lists of favourite albums
« Reply #7 on: 09 February 2011, 21:20:42 »

mmm, so hard one...

...no, i really can't answer. for me tristania are one of those bands that id wholly (is it right? ???) take on a desert island. i'd exclude only WW, which would be last in this list.
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Re: Post-Rubicon lists of favourite albums
« Reply #8 on: 02 March 2011, 06:59:49 »

1. World of Glass
2. Beyond the Veil
3-4. Rubicon / Ashes
5. Illumination













666. Widow's Weeds
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Re: Post-Rubicon lists of favourite albums
« Reply #9 on: 07 March 2011, 18:42:35 »

mmm, so hard one...

...no, i really can't answer. for me tristania are one of those bands that id wholly (is it right? ???) take on a desert island.
Can't decide either, probably:
1.1 Ashes
1.2 World of Glass
1.3 Beyond the Veil
1.4 Rubicon
1.5 Widow's Weeds
1.6 Illumination

Every album has it's own magic, so in my opinion they're somehow all on the same level.
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Re: Post-Rubicon lists of favourite albums
« Reply #10 on: 03 April 2011, 07:27:30 »

1. Beyond The Veil
2. Widow's Weeds
3. World Of Glass
4. Ashes
5. Rubicon
6. Illumination

The gap between the first three albums is extremely small. They're almost equal!!! <3
Ashes is also pretty close as well, and Rubicon is amazing too! Illumination is a bit far down though. I just find a lot of the songs on there mediocre :/
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Re: Post-Rubicon lists of favourite albums
« Reply #11 on: 27 May 2012, 23:14:04 »

1) Beyond the Veil
2) Widow's Weed
3) Rubicon / Ashes*
4) World of Glass
5) Illumination

*I think they are two different approaches to the same style, a sort of atmospheric rock mixed with extreme metal. Rubicon is beautiful, catchy and sparkling, while Ashes as dark, brooding, creepy and evil :) I think they both achieve success!

World of Glass would be second only to Beyond the Veil if it hadn't been for a couple of weak ones. Had it been an EP with songs like Wormwood, Crushed Dreams, Deadlocked etc then it would be nr 1 :D

Oh, silly me  ::)

1. World of Glass
2. Widow's Weeds
3. Beyond the Veil
4. Ashes
5. Rubicon
6. Illumination

World of Glass took a while for me... but I have to not only enjoy listening to it, but also respect the musicians behind this monumental release. Not a single second wasted on this album!
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Re: Post-Rubicon lists of favourite albums
« Reply #12 on: 27 May 2012, 23:40:10 »

1. Ashes.
2. World of Glass.
3. Beyond the Veil.
4. Illumination.
5. Widow's Weeds.
6. Rubicon.

Ashes and World of Glass are the only ones in which I wouldn't change anything, but Ashes gets the trophy for being more original and having a more defined atmosphere, maybe I'd have put WoG first if 'The Modern End' was included in the standard edition.. Then Beyond the Veil beats Illumination only because I can't forgive them for not putting 'In the Wake' on Illumination and releasing 'AB Initio' instead in some editions. Widow's Weeds sound quality makes it worse than the others, and the soul-less sound of Rubicon makes it the last one. I love them all anyways ;)
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Re: Post-Rubicon lists of favourite albums
« Reply #13 on: 28 May 2012, 01:58:48 »

1. World Of Glass
2. Beyond The Veil
3. Ashes
4. Widow's Weeds / Illumination
5. Rubicon
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Re: Post-Rubicon lists of favourite albums
« Reply #14 on: 28 May 2012, 15:37:27 »

1. Beyond The Veil
2. World Of Glass
3. Ashes
4. Illumination
5. Widow's Weeds
6. Rubicon

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Re: Post-Rubicon lists of favourite albums
« Reply #15 on: 30 May 2012, 18:09:38 »

1. World of Glass. Still one of the best albums ever for me. Everything fits perfectly, and not one single second is wasted here.

2. Ashes. I really love the dark atmosphere, the harshness, the gloomy chill it sends down my spine.

3. Widow's Weeds. My first Tristania album ever, and altough it's very cliché in some ways, I simply love it for its haunting atmosphere, the simple yet beautiful structures, the tenderness of Vibeke's vocals.

4. Illumination. Altough it took a great while to work for me, I really enjoy the toughness this album owns.

5. Beyond the Veil. I like most of the songs, but for me, the albums does not sound like a whole thing, so it ends up on the 5th range.

6. Rubicon. I can't help it, but this album sounds soulless for me, nothing like the old Tristania. Yes, I know it wasn't supposed to do so, and no, I don't have anything against changes, but for me, there has to be at least a certain feeling, a touch to the band that makes it unique, and Rubicon simply doesn't has it. Fact.
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Re: Post-Rubicon lists of favourite albums
« Reply #16 on: 03 June 2012, 01:05:24 »

hmm, probably something like

1. Ashes
2. World of Glass / Rubicon
3. Illumination
4. Beyond the Veil
5. Widow's Weeds
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Re: Post-Rubicon lists of favourite albums
« Reply #17 on: 03 September 2012, 06:58:27 »

LOVE : My top 3 is very close, I love all of them for different reasons


1-World Of Glass : This album is to me Tristania's greatest masterpiece. The perfect union of beauty and the beast vocals added to symphonic instrumentals and Latin choir added a dramatic, theatrical and atmospheric dimension to the songs. The songs are not only sung but felt with heart and soul.  I adored it from the beginning up to the end.

2-Widows Weeds: It was my very first Tristania album and it will always stay a classic for me. Sorrowful, melancholic, an ode to dark romanticism with its songs of loss, departed maidens and tragic love

3-Ashes : A very powerful, dark album that reflect the darkest deeds and emotions of humanity. It speaks about war, psychological and physical abuse, madness with gloomy eloquence

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NEUTRAL - Neither exceptional nor weak

4-Beyond the Veil: A great album overall but it did not possess to me the dramatic intensity and emotion of World of Glass, the melancholy and symbiosis of sorrow and beauty of Widows Weeds or the powerful eloquence and dark realities of Ashes. It was good but not fantastic

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THE WEAKEST ALBUMS- The only 2 albums where I dislike some songs.

5-Illumination: This album is where  to me Tristania sadly started going downhill. There are some great songs but some I found boring.

6- Rubicon: To me Tristania's weakest album. I find the lyrics weaker. I dislike most songs ( especially Magical Fix which I find atrocious , I can't stand the high pitch male vocals on that song. It should not sound like power metal . Or like the atrocious musical style that introduced forced high pitch male vocals: glam metal. The music , the vocals it was Tristania losing its identity and soul and yes I feel offended, even betrayed when listening to that song  ) . I liked some of the songs (especially Protection) and find that Mariangela brought a new energy to Tristania and this album could have had the potential to be better than Illumination. Some songs do. But the ones where Tristania experiments vocals and music to the point of losing its identity and soul and sounding like a power metal band have put Rubicon at the bottom of my list.
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Re: Post-Rubicon lists of favourite albums
« Reply #18 on: 30 October 2012, 08:23:38 »

My first post here  :)

1. Widow's weeds + Tristania EP (perfect singing + dark atmosphere = perfect; gothic metal from the books and for the books; I'm trying to get Widow's tour DVD, can anyone help?)

2. Ashes (Excellent album without weak points, every song is very good/excellent and unique)

3. World of glass (has many very good songs, but it begins to be boring when you listen Tristania for so many years that I did!)

4. Beyond of veil (after years of listening only Aphelion and Lethean river keep their quality and they are truly masterpieces, others get boring)

5. Illumination (this album I'm listening and nowadays because songs are non-agressive but that lack of sharpness put this album in 5th place)

6. Rubicon (songs are too strong and too comercialized, female vocal is too strong and too agressive for me, Vibeke cannot be compensated: she have voice that sounds like lead vocal + back vocal + athmospheric instrument!!; most probable that I will not listen this album any more at all)
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Re: Post-Rubicon lists of favourite albums
« Reply #19 on: 07 November 2012, 10:50:26 »

1. Ashes: For me the best of their music EVER. with lovely, cold, agressive and sexy songs, all in this album, the style they created in that songs is unique, I've never heared something like that, just wondered me since the firs time and 'till now they make me shiver.

2. World of Glass: It's like the music of the previous albums evolving and the band finding their sound, so fresh and experimental without losing the things they've made in the past, the violins, choirs, growls, Vibeke's voice and all combinated in a very strong way

3. Illumination: Even if the band lose some energy of their previous albums, the music still strong when there's needed and the elements are very homogenic, Kjetil was gone from the band, so they composed for the Østen and Vibeke's voice, making them explore their voices.

4.Widow's Weeds: The musica of that album is just so touching. a colection of beatufull melodies.

5.Rubicon: It's a good album, yes, but like Midnatt)O(Trollkvinne told, the music could be so much better! with all the element they have (Mariangela's powerfull voice, Pete's violins, amazing voices of Østen and Kjetil, a second guitar with Gyri and all in the band composing this time (as they told[remember I read that in some interview])) Rubicon could have been an album even better than Ashes, but they just made easy songs (verse, chorus, verse, chorus), the song are good, but they could have made amazing tunes.

6: Beyond The Veil: This album is amazing, indeed, but, is the only one where I feel they're one or two song I just can push the "next" button after some listenings.
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