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Re: Black metal
« Reply #40 on: 22 October 2010, 04:37:23 »

Tjeerd posted: "For me, music comes first, lyrics come second."

I agree completely, that's why I listen to tons of instrumental music
And I third that.
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I don't get why does the lyrics topic pop up so often when talking about black metal.
Agreed, most known black metal bands like Dimmu Borgir, Gorgoroth, Mayhem or Marduk sing about satan, gore, death and destruction, but Bathory sang bout epic battles and mithology, while Emperor had some very deep and philosophic lyrics along with lyrics about nature, magic and battles. Many black metal lyrics deal with inner struggles, spirituality, or extreme situations, like insanity. Also there's this whole "deppressive black metal" style singing about deppression and suicide. And of course there are many modern black metal bands with lyrics about very different things, like Carach Angren singing about ghost stories or Lantls singing about modern life and not feeling home anywhere.

Besides, I think the lyrics should fit the music the band is playing, and help reach the band's intention. I wouldn't like Anorexia Nervosa as much as I do if they sang about love (I must say I usually dislike love lyrics) and happiness, instead of having the totally sick, morbid and twisted lyrics they have :P

Or take an example like Portal. Their art is not limited to music, but they are trying to re-create Lovecraft's cosmic horror giving it a new dimension. In such case, the horror lyrics are a must!

Personally, I like the apocalyptic lyrics about the end of the world found in many black metal bands, I just can't help it ::)
And, let's face it, the lyrics for Tristania's "Wormwood" could easily fit into a satanic black metal band XD
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Re: Black metal
« Reply #41 on: 22 October 2010, 09:57:40 »

^Agreed, and I also think the choirs would be cool in a bm song.

Lyrics in black metal are very diverse. Reading lyrics to Depressive/Suicidal Black Metal (DSBM) while listening to those repetetive melodes can really get you in a sad mood - like funeral doom. Burzum might be the founder of depressive black metal, with very nostalgic and ''we have lost what once was''-ish themes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y84lHOlkoWg
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Re: Black metal
« Reply #42 on: 22 October 2010, 12:35:55 »

I merged the other topic with this one.

The black metal I tend to listen these days are more experimental bands. And I really like to recommend a french band named Deathspell Omega here, especially their EP Kens: three tracks of black metal with jazz- and philosophy influences. It's an appendix to their album Si Monumentum Requires, Circumspice, which started their more experimental black metal (gregorian choirs with drone-like doom passages) and their 2007 album Fas - Ite, Maledicti, in Ignem Aeternum is even more weirder. Next month a new album will be released called Paracletus in collaboration with Seasons of Mist. A free track can be downloaded from here from the upcoming album.

As I said I really like Kens. I've listened to it well over a hundred times now and still am not bored of it, especially the track I (as in: I, II, III) is great! Very nice build-up! (Tinko photographed me in a Stavanger supermarket while I was drumming to it. :D)

I gave Tarald my copy of the album for a couple of weeks and he said he once listened to it three times in a row. If you're still reading this, get that friggin' EP now! :D

Funeralord: I think this is really up your alley considering our mutual love for odd music.
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Re: Black metal
« Reply #43 on: 22 October 2010, 13:20:29 »

Thanks for the link to their new song! I didn't know it was posted.
I'm REALLY seconding them.
I know and love Deathspell Omega. It's pure genius ;D
Oddly, I happened to listen to and like Mikko Aspa's (the vocalist) funeral doom solo project ages before I got into black metal ???
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNI3OEzy2p8" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNI3OEzy2p8</a>
It's just two riffs with some quiet growling and a lady screaming, but it works SO DAMN WELL for me. It's EVIL

I also suggest Blut Aus Nord (also from France). They play a weird style of atmospheric/ambient/avant-garde black metal, with a unique guitar tone and an overall sensation of evilness.
Here's a couple songs:
Disciple's Libration (Lost In The Nine Worlds): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sz9Tz6h-TkA or http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/s/Disciples+Libration+Lost+in+the+Nine+Worlds+/2wfQJP (GrooveShark has much better sound quality)
MoRT (Metamorphosis of Realistic Theories): http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/album/MoRT/3800588 or Chapter I: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zH6KJEZc3G8

Heck, France has such a great black metal scene.
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Re: Black metal
« Reply #44 on: 01 November 2010, 12:46:27 »

Well, I'm posting another band, to keep this very interesting thread alive ;D

This time I'm suggesting Krallice's self titled debut album. Hailing from New York, this band plays another strange style of black metal, taking a different approach to the genre through post-rock.
Instead of alternating slow, atmospheric parts with black metal bursts, Krallice plays at full speed from the beggining to the end, with a good dose of technique.
The guitars have a clean sound and they constantly play and overlap melodies one over the other, sometimes giving the feel that they are playing a very long solo, although there are some actual solos here and there.
The bass, which is actually pretty audible, also plays great melodies which add to the atmosphere and the already impressive work of the guitars.
The drumming is closer to standard black metal drumming, and it's actually the thing that will remind you that this is a black metal album, as vocals are scarcely used, and they are back in the mix, making this an almost instrumental album.

As usual, here are:
the grooveshark link to listen online: http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/album/Krallice/2860540
and one of their songs on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fITAdkWngbo

If you're looking for a very unique style of black metal, this will suit you perfectly. Specially you, Tjeerd, I'm almost sure you'll like them, if you don't know them already ;)

If you like the first album, here's the second one, "Dimensional Bleedthrough": http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/playlist/Krallice+Dimensional+Bleedthrough/38470895
And be sure to visit the band's MySpace: http://www.myspace.com/krallice

Enjoy! ;D
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Re: Black metal
« Reply #45 on: 02 November 2010, 00:06:29 »

I really like the melodic leads, but that's pretty much it. I respect the band, but I just didn't like the ''american wibe'' of it :P if that makes any sense.
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Re: Black metal
« Reply #46 on: 14 November 2010, 22:02:30 »

Nocturnal Depression!

They are a relatively new DSBM band from France. The song Nostalgia is their best known song.

The Metal Archives
- http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=19948

MySpace
- http://www.myspace.com/nocturnaldepression
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Re: Black metal
« Reply #47 on: 14 November 2010, 22:11:42 »

I've seen their name many times, and still haven't listened to them exactly because of their name XD
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Re: Black metal
« Reply #48 on: 14 November 2010, 22:20:33 »

Give it a try!  ;)

It's slow and minimal, but the melodies are in the same vein as Burzum or Darkthrone (Transilvanian Hunger-era). It's a cool exploration of what black metal could sound like.

And about the name... if a band can call itself The Sins of Thy Beloved, then Nocturnal Depression should be fine  8)
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Re: Black metal
« Reply #49 on: 14 November 2010, 22:40:15 »

:-O
I tried to listen to the "Nostalgia" song on YouTube, but couldn't concentrate because of the comments below the video XD
Listening again... Not quite my cup of tea ;D
And about the name... if a band can call itself The Sins of Thy Beloved, then Nocturnal Depression should be fine  8)
Damn right! XD
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Re: Black metal
« Reply #50 on: 19 November 2010, 23:28:01 »

OK, since this is the black metal thread, and it's been over a week since it came out, have you guys listened to the biggest cult black metal band's (Deathspell Omega) new album, "Paracletus"? What's your opinion on it?
I think it's one of the best black metal releases of 2010, along with Blut Aus Nord's "What Once Was... Liber I". The great doses of technique, the unique, twisted and chaotic riffs, the evil vocals and the overall musical weirdness of Paracletus make it an extremely impressive work by this French band. I still like "Si Monvmentvm Reqvires, Circvmspice" a bit better because of the "darker" production, but Paracletus keeps growing on me. If you haven't listened to it yet, I highly suggest that you do so, you won't regret it:
http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/playlist/Deathspell+Omega+Paracletus/39101924

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Re: Black metal
« Reply #51 on: 20 November 2010, 02:03:18 »

I think it needs to grow on me. I've listened to it a couple of times, mostly because of the hype about it. It's fairly technical for black metal, and the lyrics are aweseom!
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Re: Black metal
« Reply #52 on: 20 November 2010, 18:13:06 »

Have you heard the previous albums? This one is the last one of a trilogy, some riffs are reused from previous albums.

Si Monvmentvm - first part
Kens - addendum to previous album (I LOVE this EP)
Fas Ite - second part
Paracletus - third part
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Re: Black metal
« Reply #53 on: 19 March 2011, 02:14:09 »

Just thought of something. 1994 is THE year of norwegian black metal; De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas, Tranvilanian Hunger and Hvis lyset tar oss, and debt-albums from Emperor, Enslaved, Satyricon, Gorgoroth and Dimmu Borgir. This is where I see the end of the second wave.

Most of these bands claim to have ''been there with Mayhem, Burzum and Darkthrone from the beginning'', and on their demos it says 1989, 1990 and 1991. But I actually think that they are lying... Think about it: why would they ALL wait until AFTER the murder of Euronymous, the church-arsons etc to release albums? As far as  I know, Mayhem, Darkthrone, Immortal and Burzum are the only ones involved in 92-93, but the rest I feel is just riding the wave after it got media attention. I'm not saying that they're all lying, I'm just saying that those independent releases are hard to put dates on, since no official company distributes them.
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Re: Black metal
« Reply #54 on: 19 March 2011, 08:50:33 »

Interesting theory, and I think there's a good chance it's trve ???
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Re: Black metal
« Reply #55 on: 22 March 2011, 06:04:59 »

Just finished listening to the new Blut Aus Nord album, "777 Sect(s)" (and immediately clicked on "Play" again).
I'm speechless. I'm dead serious. It's incredible!!! :o
I think they have surpassed Deathspell Omega with this!
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Re: Black metal
« Reply #56 on: 22 March 2011, 12:25:29 »

Just listened to a few samples of 777, it sounded great :)
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Re: Black metal
« Reply #57 on: 24 March 2011, 05:21:20 »

Just listened to a few samples of 777, it sounded great :)
Then I urge you to listen to the full album and preorder it!
I listened to this album 9 times in 1 day :o
I probably haven't listened to any of their other albums so many times. The "Epitome" name they have chosen for the songs couldn't be more accurate, as they sum up everything black metal should be: very dark, dissonant, chaotic, twisted, and, most of all, EVIL.
And they say they are going to release 2 more albums this year? I can't even begin to imagine what awaits us :o
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Re: Black metal
« Reply #58 on: 28 March 2011, 18:50:35 »

Damn! How the fuck do you find these?!

The guitars on the first track like on 1:30 just brings twisted images to my mind. Yeah, they top Deathspell Omega, but I don't really care for DO, so it wasn't too hard =)
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Re: Black metal
« Reply #59 on: 28 March 2011, 23:04:53 »

Damn! How the fuck do you find these?!
Hehehehe, Internet is a very powerful tool when in the right hands XD
The guitars on the first track like on 1:30 just brings twisted images to my mind.
Exactly! I feel the same throughout the whole album! It's so... mind-piercing! Both the faster parts and the slower, doomier ones, and also the ambient-like outro on the first song. And the 4th song's first riff comes straight from hell.
Yeah, they top Deathspell Omega, but I don't really care for DO, so it wasn't too hard =)
Hehehe, I like DO a lot, but this BAN album is too much!
Online listening link: http://listen.grooveshark.com/album/777+Sect+s+/5900942?src=5
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