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« Reply #40 on: 20 November 2006, 20:01:16 »

I'm with Brak. Samething over here. There's some Icelandic Black Metal Revolution bullshit that's happening where I'm from and guess what more than 3/4 of these people are so-called "neo-nazis". Now folks, my question is how fucked up does a genre of metal has to be that both satanists and racists call it their own :lol:

Blame it on Hellhammer- assholes
Blame it on Venom- more assholes.

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« Reply #41 on: 20 November 2006, 20:06:02 »

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Now folks, my question is how fucked up does a genre of metal has to be that both satanists and racists call it their own :lol:

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It has to be pretty fucked up don't it? :lol:

But hey at least we have Cradle of Shit....ahem....I mean Cradle of Filth to keep us occupied :P

What I would disagree or agree with Brak:

Hypocrites- Agreed wholeheartedly.(except for mayhem of course)
Looneys- Disagree
Racists- Agreed fully!
Stupid- Not all of them.
Satanic- duh?
Overrepetitive- of course

Definitely not my genre of metal but hey some people seem to like Black Metal so....let the good times roll :D
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« Reply #42 on: 20 November 2006, 20:27:44 »

WTF!!!???

are you people really insane?

@Brak: you pointed out plenty of times, that you don`t have a CLUE about black metal! Not all black metal bands themes are satanic, and not just that, each band can have it`s own unique theme and believe it or not, it can be expressed not just with lyrics, but with everything a metal band incorporates...

@Kirkengard: Oh, so black metal is the reason you`ve got that many nazi idiots up there? lol, my guess would be their brainless heads  ;) And another thing, we`ve got racists here too, and nazis, but guess what - they hate metalheads, especially black metal fans, the main reason are black clothes, long hair etc.

over and out, writing in this theme is obviously a big waste of time
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« Reply #43 on: 20 November 2006, 20:37:15 »

You think so?
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« Reply #44 on: 20 November 2006, 20:38:11 »

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@Feandir: Who the hell said Tristania was even near something as vomit-worthy as black metal :huh: And btw: In terms of metal, BM is the ONLY metal that is played where I come from. You have you're everyday Nightwish and Maiden but other than that you have shit like Venom and Emperor being played.
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mmm...
venom is not black metal, they gave the bass for it, but they themself aren't black metal. Emperor is a very good band, but you must know there are bands and bands of black metal. There is nazism and racism on it, but is not in everyone, but stupids there are all around the world.

But black metal is not as bad as you show, there are many good bands, and they talk of many topics on their songs (listen to cradle of filth, demon burger, i mean, dimmu borgir, theatre des vampire, satyricon, and i don't know what any other bands may you  hear, they aren't as bad as you say).

There are some things that are true, as bands as burzum and mayhem that got famous because of their implication on diferent strange things, like murders and things like that...

@eclipse: good point about pseudo-nazis
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« Reply #45 on: 20 November 2006, 20:39:08 »

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Not all black metal bands themes are satanic, and not just that, each band can have it`s own unique theme and believe it or not, it can be expressed not just with lyrics, but with everything a metal band incorporates...
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Mmmm......so that what BM does to you people huh :mellow:

"unique themes"---nice way to describe bands that preah extreme right-wing ideologies. Listen here you ameteur, if you listen to 99% of all black metal you'd see that they all have an anti-collectivist mindset. And tell me something: why is it that there is no National Socialist Symphonic Metal Movement or no National Socialist Power Metal Movement or no National Socialist Gothic Metal Movement or no National Socialist Heavy Metal Movement?

What the FUCK is it that makes black metal so appealing that would make it fit for a National Socialist Black Metal Movement. Go dive into your band's so called "unique themes" and settle that question cause if you can't answer that you're just like the clueless people out there who doesn't know shit about the genre and just bang their heads like monkeys to cacophonous bullshit like Dimmu Borgir, e.t.c.
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« Reply #46 on: 20 November 2006, 20:43:51 »

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What the FUCK is it that makes black metal so appealing that would make it fit for a National Socialist Black Metal Movement. Go dive into your band's so called "unique themes" and settle that question cause if you can't answer that you're just like the clueless people out there who doesn't know shit about the genre and just bang their heads like monkeys to cacophonous bullshit like Dimmu Borgir, e.t.c.
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Good point.......and I thought disney programmed kids, can't be as bad as black metal :lol:
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« Reply #47 on: 20 November 2006, 20:49:11 »

i think that's more a fashion than a movement. They followed the fashion of being bad boys playing black metal, always you can find things like that.
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« Reply #48 on: 21 November 2006, 04:26:02 »

Black Metal huh. I think the problem that the person who started the thread has is with the interpretation of the music. I mean yes, the extreme ideas put foward by BM can indeed cause some sicko racists to interpret it in certain way. But let's say you're a metal fan who have never heard of Black Metal and then you hear a song from let's say Darkwoods My Bethroed, there's no way in hell you'd interpret that as being satanic or racist. It is all relativism. BM is so versatile that I think verasility is the answer you're looking for Brak.
That's the inherent thing that would make idiots take black metal and make their own socialist version. It's a well know fact that metal is the most popular among whites and so it is a target of white nationalists. However, they can't just go into symphonic metal or something like that and preach hatred. They need a more flimsier genre, which of course is Black Metal. Sad but true :(
And yes it does sicken me that most black metal is looked upon in this way but that's just the reality of it.

@Feandir: Venom was actually the first band that was classified as black metal after which the genre went true a progressive type evolution into the BM we know today :)
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« Reply #49 on: 21 November 2006, 04:42:14 »

Nice point dreamchild :)
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« Reply #50 on: 21 November 2006, 04:43:49 »

Albums I'd like to get a refund for because I didn't know they would be bullshit (oddly enough they are all BM bands):





Celtic Frost- Morbid Tales

Immortal- Pure Holocaust

Satyricon- Dark Medieval Times (I'd pardon this album because it has a more folk metal influence which I love but the band itself sucks)

Darkthrone- Transylvanian Hunger (some queer shit! :angry: )

Enslaved- Vikingligr Veldi (and to think that neo-paganism can't get any more boring)

Mayhem - De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas (if the band isn't looney and fucked up, this album sure is)

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« Reply #51 on: 21 November 2006, 10:40:22 »

Morbid Tales is a work of art.

As you say in your signature, you should really stay off drugs, they really managed to damage your nervous system.
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« Reply #52 on: 21 November 2006, 16:53:48 »

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Black Metal huh. I think the problem that the person who started the thread has is with the interpretation of the music. I mean yes, the extreme ideas put foward by BM can indeed cause some sicko racists to interpret it in certain way. But let's say you're a metal fan who have never heard of Black Metal and then you hear a song from let's say Darkwoods My Bethroed, there's no way in hell you'd interpret that as being satanic or racist. It is all relativism. BM is so versatile that I think verasility is the answer you're looking for Brak.
That's the inherent thing that would make idiots take black metal and make their own socialist version. It's a well know fact that metal is the most popular among whites and so it is a target of white nationalists. However, they can't just go into symphonic metal or something like that and preach hatred. They need a more flimsier genre, which of course is Black Metal. Sad but true :(
And yes it does sicken me that most black metal is looked upon in this way but that's just the reality of it.

@Feandir: Venom was actually the first band that was classified as black metal after which the genre went true a progressive type evolution into the BM we know today :)
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your points are good indeed.

But Venom, i've known that they are considered the... let me look for the word... merde... the !"$&/( online dictionary is slow ... there it is XD

well, as i was telling, Venom i've known they are considered the forerunner of the genre, but not part of the genre it self, just like bathory and sodom (i know sodom is thrash metal, it just what i've heard), something similar to what running wild is for the power metal (what a good band is that!!). Venom is supposed to be black metal just because of their Black Metal album...

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« Reply #53 on: 21 November 2006, 16:57:50 »

doesn't surprise me, there are idiots who consider Kreator black metal :rolleyes:
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« Reply #54 on: 21 November 2006, 17:01:28 »

you're joking

please tell me it's a joke o.o

WAAAAAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAAJJA XD

kreator black metal XD

hahahahaha

kreator is the greatest thrash metal ever!!! \m/ XD
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« Reply #55 on: 21 November 2006, 18:30:09 »

CRADLE OF FILTH <3

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« Reply #56 on: 21 November 2006, 18:33:46 »

cradle is a great band :D
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« Reply #57 on: 21 November 2006, 18:34:22 »

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Morbid Tales is a work of art.

As you say in your signature, you should really stay off drugs, they really managed to damage your nervous system.
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So I guess alcohol goes well with black metal for you too huh ;)
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« Reply #58 on: 22 November 2006, 01:22:44 »

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cradle is a great band :D
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I agree! But they aren't really what I would consider black metal. More like a lower grade of Symphonic black metal, they are actually more symphonic than black metal I can't handle black metal it isn't my cup of tea. People always think I'm nuts when they know I like Cradle of Filth since I'm kind of the calm hippy person. I'm listening to Gilded Cunt atm and I dunno I like the song Guilded cunt mostly for the guitar. I love guitars so go figure. But if someone considers CoF black metal its so debated I don't know. But I think Nymphetamine is more black metal than Thornography. Thornography goes into Symphonic elements in my opinion. I like most of CoF Damnation and a Day, Nymphetamine (I own the special edition :D ) and Thornography. Everything before is okay but I'm not too into it.
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« Reply #59 on: 22 November 2006, 03:56:59 »

Wow, if you're saying Nymphetamine is more black metal than Thornography, Thornography must really suck! :blink:

btw: I haven't got that album and from what I hear, I don't think I'd bother getting it anyways.
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