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Brak

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« on: 18 November 2006, 05:49:55 »

1. They are hypocrites. Come on folks let's be realistic. The majority of black metal bands preach about darkness and blood and blah blah blah. But we all know that most of the guys are completely fine and at the centre of society. They live in pretty nice houses. They drink their beer, watch their football matches and go home. If they ever indeed have an encounter with the devil or a demon (if it does exist) they will be shitting and pissing their pants like a 5 month old baby.


2. They are kinda stupid. I mean it literally. (Bathory and Ceremonial Embrace especially). One particular BM site. I saw an interview where the interviewer was talking to the guitarist and asked him if he was a spiritual man. And did you know what the guitarist said....."I'm an atheist but I think Satan should be embraced" :lol:

3. It is a narrow-minded genre. Okay with bands like Tristania e.t.c. there is usually a mix-up between themes in the music even though some albums may exhibit repititon. But come on folks BM bands only sing about one theme throughout their entire career.


4. Several bands have members who were held up for sexual harrasment charges and even rape (gorgoroth). Now tell me would you listen extensively to music that pedophiles and serial rapists like.....I didn't think so.

5. This is the long term damage of listening to black metal.



Moral here: Don't listen to black metal, it's dangerous for your health.

A Warning from Brakandaran who have seen first hand what happens to black metal fans after an overdose.
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« Reply #1 on: 18 November 2006, 12:31:25 »

Hilary Duff would be pleased.   :D

As would Westlife!   :lol:  :lol:  Congratulations you made your brethren proud!  Take a bow  ;)
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« Reply #2 on: 18 November 2006, 14:19:44 »

Well I am married with a child and I still listen to as much metal as I did when i was a kid, I think I listen to even heavier stuff now that I am older.

Oh and I am listening to the new Vesania album God The Lux right now. They sound like Dimmu Borgir
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« Reply #3 on: 18 November 2006, 14:30:12 »

@Brak: you need to jump in David Hasselhoff's car!
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« Reply #4 on: 18 November 2006, 14:32:55 »

LOL Brak :lol:

You can't hate BM that much
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« Reply #5 on: 18 November 2006, 14:37:33 »

Actually, I'm still waiting for Dimmu Borgir to come to my house and personally apologize to me for releasing Prodigies of the Great Apocolypse.
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« Reply #6 on: 18 November 2006, 15:00:37 »

I doubt you'll get Dimmu Borgir.  Would you be willing to settle for Varg Vikernes?   :D
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« Reply #7 on: 18 November 2006, 19:16:15 »

I really like BM, not as gothic butI like it, lol :D
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« Reply #8 on: 18 November 2006, 19:49:11 »

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1. They are hypocrites. Come on folks let's be realistic. The majority of black metal bands preach about darkness and blood and blah blah blah. But we all know that most of the guys are completely fine and at the centre of society. They live in pretty nice houses. They drink their beer, watch their football matches and go home. If they ever indeed have an encounter with the devil or a demon (if it does exist) they will be shitting and pissing their pants like a 5 month old baby.
2. They are kinda stupid. I mean it literally. (Bathory and Ceremonial Embrace especially). One particular BM site. I saw an interview where the interviewer was talking to the guitarist and asked him if he was a spiritual man. And did you know what the guitarist said....."I'm an atheist but I think Satan should be embraced" :lol:

3. It is a narrow-minded genre. Okay with bands like Tristania e.t.c. there is usually a mix-up between themes in the music even though some albums may exhibit repititon. But come on folks BM bands only sing about one theme throughout their entire career.
4. Several bands have members who were held up for sexual harrasment charges and even rape (gorgoroth). Now tell me would you listen extensively to music that pedophiles and serial rapists like.....I didn't think so.

5. This is the long term damage of listening to black metal.

Moral here: Don't listen to black metal, it's dangerous for your health.

A Warning from Brakandaran who have seen first hand what happens to black metal fans after an overdose.
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1. So they should be rolling in dirt, blood, spit, dust, mud, etc to be true to reality? I don`t get it, are they animals?
2. give your source, which site?
3. So die-hard fans should go and kill themselves? Plus, I induce you are not very familiar with that genre. There are bands which do not sing about Satan only (a simple example - Enslaved)
4. Yes, I would, if I do it for the sake of the music. Now, don`t tell me there aren`t any perverts in other genres?
5. This doesn`t even deserve a comment.

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« Reply #9 on: 18 November 2006, 20:25:05 »

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Actually, I'm still waiting for Dimmu Borgir to come to my house and personally apologize to me for releasing Prodigies of the Great Apocolypse.
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but why? that album is entertainment :P (too ridicolous)
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« Reply #10 on: 18 November 2006, 21:11:35 »

I don't really listen to the kind of black metal that sings about Satan. I love the music style, but the lyrics...I can't bring myself that low.

In other news this thread is pretty pointless :D
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« Reply #11 on: 18 November 2006, 23:20:26 »

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I don't really listen to the kind of black metal that sings about Satan. I love the music style, but the lyrics...I can't bring myself that low.

In other news this thread is pretty pointless :D
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yeah i agree  completely pointless this one is by far the stupidest thread i have ever read on here
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« Reply #12 on: 19 November 2006, 02:13:16 »

Yes, this thread is quite superfluous.

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« Reply #13 on: 19 November 2006, 02:30:42 »

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yeah i agree  completely pointless this one is by far the stupidest thread i have ever read on here
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What the fuck?! So you'd rather me go debate with you on how people in this forum doesn't no what gothic metal is????!!!!! :angry:
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« Reply #14 on: 19 November 2006, 02:32:48 »

Um....this thread isn't stupid, the evanescence thread is stupid. :P



btw brak: I know black metal sucks (at least most of it) but there's no reason to create a thread for it though I know you're boarding on being serious and comical :lol:
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« Reply #15 on: 19 November 2006, 03:20:53 »

So black metal is filled with people who have hatred in their hearts and have had reputation for racism and some members have been part of the white supremacist movement in northern england and skin head movement in Finland. So nothing is wrong with it right? Of course not! /sarcastic :rolleyes:

I hate defending Brak but I have to set the record straight, he's trying to say something other than the fact that "Black Metal sucks".
Nothing is wrong with liking black metal, but at least people here have to know about the genre and its history and why it is CALLED black metal for. And for those who want proof of this, you're supposed to KNOW this if you've been listening to it for that long.


P.S>>>I enjoy some black metal bands. It's not a  genre I admire because the ideology of it.

 Have you  guys heard of the National Socialist Black Metal Movement over there in Norway, I seriously doubt it.


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Black metal is generally held to embrace anti-christian sentiment, misanthropy, nihilism, as well as in some cases racism and nationalism. In actuality most black metal musicians view their craft as a natural result of their inherent misanthropy and anti-establishment Weltanschauung

www.blacksupremacy.com

Or check out Micheal Moynihan: The Bloody Rise of Satanic Metal Underground---All the bands mentioned in this book are black metal.


Oh yeah and the lead singer of gorgoroth Gaahl was imprisoned for beating a 41 year old man and threatening to drink his blood (2002). Listen I like the band but face it most of the members of black metal bands are either effeminate weirdos or freaks.
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« Reply #16 on: 19 November 2006, 03:43:03 »

In Finland, Black metal is looked down upon in most circles. Of course the church doesn't like it but the big hit came from the people of the left wing who claim it as "Racist Metal" especially when Finland is adjusting to its high rate of globalization. To be shunned by liberalist and christian conservatives is a big hit. However some bands like CoF and Dimmu Borgir have watered down their black metal and though the quality of their music has degenerated, at least they have bread to put on their tables.

Like it or not the name "Black Metal" is an anti-religious and a racist genre of metal. It's not an opinion its a fact because that is the exact definition of the genre. Look at all the founders of black metal: Hellhammer, Bathory. The third wave of the Norweigian black metal scene came with Emperor and Cradle of Filth though these bands weren't as extreme as their ideology as their predecessors.

But recently there has been a surge in Slavic Black Metal which is bringing back a racist ideology. The bands that would be coming up in the future of this genre are bringing with them a Socialist/white supremacist ideology that I'm really pissed about :angry: Some advocates of this new wave of black metal are claiming that nationalist and supremacist are two very different things but the line between racism and nationalism / patriotism is an extremely thin and perilous one: if one is strongly nationalistic, whereby one is proud of belonging to his origins and of belonging to a particular social group, then it is no great leap to start seeing other groups as inferior.

There my rant is over. I'm not a big fan of BM but I do enjoy some bands of the genre, the open minded ones. I can't stand most of them because listening to black metal is like listening to christian gospels. There preaching their beliefs in the same narrow minded way.

If you want more information, check out Nuclear Blast Metal Archives.....
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« Reply #17 on: 19 November 2006, 06:02:04 »

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What the fuck?! So you'd rather me go debate with you on how people in this forum doesn't no what gothic metal is????!!!!! :angry:
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The gothic metal thread has three advantages to this..

a) Desecrator doesn't have his head up his ass
B) The argument actually has merit and isn't just opinion and lots of ignorant non truths.
c)  Its based on music and not on extreme spiteful bias.  

I've argued this shit time and time again, its not worth it folks.  Once thick as a brick, always!   ;)
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« Reply #18 on: 19 November 2006, 13:08:03 »

Night haunts and evil lurks in every corner
Like plague it's spreading - I behold
Loneliness, yet with you autumn night as guest
But can you hear my cries?
Permeate me, oh night, as with the forest you did
for heart is cold, cold as ice

I drown in the colour of your eye
for a black heart will only find beauty in darkness
I breathe it's eternity to absorb the sky
where the shadows of death may lie

Feel the call - Nocturnal desire
Sorrow's breath - Enchanting cries
Night's blood - Taste damnation's wine
Feel the pain - Nocturnal desire
The devil's path of dark delight
Night's blood - Pure damnation's wine

Eyes are glowing, burn as hell's fire
Mark thy wisdom in my mind

Those who never was born
but whose darkness eternally
devastated the goodness built up through milleniums
No time passed, our victory is eternal
Our scorn, our silence...
A heart dies drowning in the night's blood
Everlasting malice for the wicked soul
Can't resist the night's sweet blood

Loneliness in the embrace of you autumn night
The night that froze my cries
Deep into the woods glows a fading light
I sold my soul, cold as ice

I drown in the colour of your eye
for a black heart will only find beauty in darkness
I breathe it's eternity to absorb the sky
where the shadows of death may lie

if you don`t like black metal, don`t listen to it, stick to power or whatever it is that you listen to  ;)

nsbm is just one of the sub-genres, considering the whole black metal scene as nationalistic is hypocritical and ... bla bla

the same goes with satanic lyrics and ideology
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« Reply #19 on: 19 November 2006, 17:13:49 »

Black metal is Racist but I don't care. It's not the message that I listen to the music for. It is the technical aspect of it....just my 2 cents.
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