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Offline Rathma

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« Reply #20 on: 13 December 2006, 04:29:35 »
Just an FYI: I actually do like Ashes so i'm not a BTV fanboi. That felt like they were touching on something interesting and different, but so far illumination isn't doing it for me. Maybe it's just because I don't like the production quality.
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« Reply #21 on: 15 December 2006, 00:06:06 »
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I disagree with the Lacuna Coil part  :P  :P  :P  they used to be boring, now they just suck!
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Thats your opinion. Mad because they don't scream a portion of their lyrics? I just hope your not that closed minded, and have an actual reason for disliking them.  :angry:  That's not the point of the thread anyway.
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« Reply #22 on: 15 December 2006, 00:50:01 »
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Thats your opinion. Mad because they don't scream a portion of their lyrics? I just hope your not that closed minded, and have an actual reason for disliking them.  :angry:  That's not the point of the thread anyway.
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No, I'm not closed minded, The Gathering and Katatonia, Virgin Black are some of my faves. I don't like Lacuna Coil because most of their songs sound the same, and the lyrics don't make much sense at all. They are far from innovative, although I have to admit, Christina does have excellent voice. Their last album... well.... they sound more like "Lacuna KoRn"!  :lol:

Lacuna Coil has a Pop/nu-metal sound, they should be compared to Evanescence.  I don't like Tristania to be mentioned with these bands because it discredits everything Tristania has accomplished . Of course that's my opinion (shared by many).

By the way I'm fully awared that it has Nothing to do with this thread, I just disagree with that "look at Lacuna Coil...." part.   ;)
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« Reply #23 on: 04 January 2007, 13:59:36 »
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I dunno, but I actually love the diversity on the new album. Down, the Ravens and Deadlands are amazing songs! (along with Mercyside, Fate and Sacriledge of course)  :lol:
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My point exactly. Great bands achieve longevity and success by diversifying their sound with each album. And I'm really really happy that Tristania chose this route. And the album was a winner!!! I can't take the repetitive bullshit of most bands these days :rolleyes:
Congratulations guys!
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« Reply #24 on: 04 January 2007, 14:00:39 »
^totally agree. ;)
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« Reply #25 on: 04 January 2007, 19:33:37 »
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Their last album... well.... they sound more like "Lacuna KoRn"!  :lol:

Lacuna Coil has a Pop/nu-metal sound, they should be compared to Evanescence.  I don't like Tristania to be mentioned with these bands because it discredits everything Tristania has accomplished .


 Illumination was produced by the same person who did Karmacode. Both albums sound pop-ish and nu-metal.

 The only difference is that Lacuna Coil fits this sound, Tristania does not.
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« Reply #26 on: 04 January 2007, 19:42:56 »
I think you are pretty alone with that opinion.. ;)
to meantion Tristania and Nu-Metal in one sentence is really absurd...
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« Reply #27 on: 04 January 2007, 21:29:29 »
Tristania...

Nu-Metal... *spits*

Nope, no connection :)

Mabey goth rock, but Nu-metal? *spits*
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« Reply #28 on: 04 January 2007, 22:32:59 »
the guy who produce Tristania "illumination" and Lacuna Coil "karmacode" (waldemar idunnohowspellhisname) also did "memorial from Moonspell that acualy its a good album so i dont  think thats have something to do whit the sound of Illumination
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« Reply #29 on: 04 January 2007, 22:56:58 »
Illumination maybe a tad heavier on the bass and drums but nu-metal? HAHAHAHAHA......you gotta be kidding! :lol: I suppose Madder Mortem also sounds nu-metal to you then ??  :lol:



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« Reply #30 on: 05 January 2007, 02:03:30 »
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Illumination was produced by the same person who did Karmacode. Both albums sound pop-ish and nu-metal.

 The only difference is that Lacuna Coil fits this sound, Tristania does not.
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Well if Illumination was nu-metal then it is some good fucking nu-metal I'll tell you that! :angry:
Cause if you haven't noticed, Lacuna Coil is utter shit. Putting LC and Tristania in the same statement is blasphemy! :angry:
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« Reply #31 on: 06 January 2007, 13:14:49 »
Maybe LC isn't "your thing" but they have their moments as well. (Heaven's a Lie is a pretty good song IMO.)

With Waldemar's 'style' of producing the rythm-section of a band gets more attention (and isn't metal pretty rythym focused in general?). Being a rythm-nut myself, I don't mind at all. Granted, the way an album is produced can push it in a direction (for instance: "The Killers" are sometimes regarded Britpop, while they're not british in the first place), but I hear too many difference in style (no rap, no emo-screams, the prog-like parts here and there) to label this album nu-metal.

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« Reply #32 on: 06 January 2007, 13:40:06 »
Having read this thread I would like to say that at the end of the day music is personal. I care not for how "nu-metal" an album sounds like, it doesn't have to even be metal, as long as there is something in the lyrics, music or vocals that resounds an emotion that I can relate to. Lacuna Coil and Tristania are two of my favourite bands because of this, and I love both Karmacode and Illumination.
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« Reply #33 on: 06 January 2007, 17:23:41 »
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Illumination was produced by the same person who did Karmacode. Both albums sound pop-ish and nu-metal.

 The only difference is that Lacuna Coil fits this sound, Tristania does not.
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no, i will not judge you for what you wrote up there but i will beg you to reconsider it. how many spins have you given Illumination? and how many spins have you given Karmacode? personally i think Illumination can't even be considered near Karmacode. heck, it's light years away. then again, Illumination pop-ish and nu-metal? are you sure?  have you heard rap, some guy/chick screaming his/her lungs out and lyrics that are repetitive and annoyingly meaningless? if you have than maybe you should just give it just a few more spins...

as for me Tristania just hit the jackpot with this album! it's something special. sure i miss the growls and i miss the synths but damn they just blew me away with Illumination. at first i was confused. i didn't know what to think. there was so much missing and so many new elements.. i got over it and now i find this album a perfect Tristania album, just like the rest. good job!

ps: Viva the goth rock elements. :D
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