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Re: Well, let's hear your opinions.
« Reply #60 on: 22 October 2010, 21:42:08 »


Sirens seems to be one of the more grim songs on the album, especially during the start. I really like the acoustic part at the "Wall of Silence" and somehow reminds me of Opeth. (7,5/10)

Finally someone who has similar associations about this one.! ;) I think about Opeth since first time I hear Sirens. ;)
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Re: Well, let's hear your opinions.
« Reply #61 on: 23 October 2010, 01:16:08 »


Sirens seems to be one of the more grim songs on the album, especially during the start. I really like the acoustic part at the "Wall of Silence" and somehow reminds me of Opeth. (7,5/10)

Finally someone who has similar associations about this one.! ;) I think about Opeth since first time I hear Sirens. ;)
I agree also.  I may tab this ;)
It's basically the melody from the main riff played with added open string notes.  And then the 'aah-aah' bit after also.
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Re: Well, let's hear your opinions.
« Reply #62 on: 23 October 2010, 08:16:17 »

Well, instantly I didn't like it. But you know like Emerson says, I've to contradict myself in future to become me. Boy, this man preaches inconsistency! :P
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Re: Well, let's hear your opinions.
« Reply #63 on: 24 October 2010, 18:44:52 »

What's wrong about being an "old Tristania fan"? You make it sound as if it was a bad thing, it's ok for some of us to dislike the new direction Tristania has taken or at least miss their old style, I actually find it very hard to love their new sound when you used to be a die hard fan of them considering they sound really differnte now.

No, I didn't make it sound as it was a bad thing, you read it that way. I'm perfectly aware it's a good thing, considering that even though I enjoy the new album and still enjoy the band, I don't love it. And no matter how many listens I take and how much effort I put in, the new albums will never be what the old ones were/are to me. I'm a WW/BTV girl all the way, but I'm sick and tired of people constantly nagging about Tristania's new sound and on the other hand, followers of Tristania labeling those (of us) who like the old sound far more, as being narrow minded and such.

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Re: Well, let's hear your opinions.
« Reply #64 on: 24 October 2010, 19:45:25 »


Sirens seems to be one of the more grim songs on the album, especially during the start. I really like the acoustic part at the "Wall of Silence" and somehow reminds me of Opeth. (7,5/10)

Finally someone who has similar associations about this one.! ;) I think about Opeth since first time I hear Sirens. ;)


Ole's work title for that part was "Opeth-part" ;)
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Re: Well, let's hear your opinions.
« Reply #65 on: 30 October 2010, 20:34:39 »

No, I didn't make it sound as it was a bad thing, you read it that way. I'm perfectly aware it's a good thing, considering that even though I enjoy the new album and still enjoy the band, I don't love it. And no matter how many listens I take and how much effort I put in, the new albums will never be what the old ones were/are to me. I'm a WW/BTV girl all the way, but I'm sick and tired of people constantly nagging about Tristania's new sound and on the other hand, followers of Tristania labeling those (of us) who like the old sound far more, as being narrow minded and such.
My bad then :P, anyway I think we are in the same page then.
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Re: Well, let's hear your opinions.
« Reply #66 on: 28 February 2011, 13:04:46 »

I got meself da album! :)

Well, it's not too fair because I heard some of the tracks already - some on the band's myspace and some on youtube, so most of them were already known to me. Not sure I'm ready for a written review - not a lot of spare time on my hands unfortunately - but I'm sure I liked what I heard rather than not. What bugged me upon the first listen was the way Mariangela's vocals were recorded but I got past that. I also learned to deal with Year of the Rat which I hated when I saw the video.

The favourite songs are:
- Illumination. Excellent epic, a stone thrown at anyone who says the band has lost the ability to write complex songs - though it's not the only one. And guess what - I guess we need more Einar! Come on! He isn't even on this forum but he's one of the two pillars that support the edifice of Tristania. Come back Einar, we love you! :)
- Exile. This one is THE song if I have to pick just one from the record. Excellent chorus melody and overall feeling. This should be a hit. I checked a live version on youtube and it's smoking, a classic live staple in the making (and since the band plays that at encores, it's already established).
- Vulture. This was a song I haven't heard prior to getting the album.
- Amnesia.

Stuff I don't dig (yet):
- Magical Fix.
- Patriot Games.

Overall I think the album is a very worthy successor to Illumination, maybe even better than that one. Probably not as strong front to back as World of Glass but solid nevertheless. Could be 7.5/10 on my scale (and that's by no means low -  I'm not one of those who think that 8/10 is "passable" and 7/10 "dross" - if I'd hated the album I wouldn't have hesitated to give it a 3/10 or something).

And of course, those yearning for days of yore with choirs, predominance of growls and cliched gothic lyrics can just as well drink their poison now. Such is life - it's evolution.

I've also gotten Sirenia's The Enigma of Life and now giving it the first spin. Wonder how they compare.
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Re: Well, let's hear your opinions.
« Reply #67 on: 03 April 2011, 03:29:46 »

I find Rubicon very good. The songs compliment Mary's voice and the album is so different from Tristania...yet you can still tell that it's a Tristania album. Though the lyrics are a bit cheesy and annoying at some parts, they can be overlooked at some points. It will never have anything on my dearest Beyond The Veil, Widow's Weeds, and World of Glass, but Mary is a worthy successor to the beautiful Vibeke Stene ( We will miss you  :'( ) and with listening to how well this album turned out, I can probably say that she will take Tristania into a new and invigorating era.

Year of the Rat - very captivating and darkly catching song. Beautiful and addicting as well. 5/5

The Passing - great and mysterious melody. Vocal performance is beautiful and small harsh vocal part adds to it 4.5/5

Patriot Games - different, yet well done. shows Mary's edgy voice in a sucessful way. Lyrics are a bit ridiculous at times though 3/5

The Passing - beautiful and touching. Violin part given by Pete Johanssen adds to the slow affect of the song 4/5

Exile - one of the best on the album. very mesmerizing and cativating. Mary's vocals blew me away and the lyrics took me into another world. 5/5 +++

Sirens - a very decent song. Good beat and melody, as well as vocal performance, but the lyrics were a bit ridiculous to me 3/5

The Emerald Piper - Don't know what to make of this song. It seems a bit bland to me. Nothing stood out in any aspect 1.5/5

Vultures - Very Good song and harsh melody that brings you in in a strange way. Absence of Mary on this track 3.5/5

Amnesia - Best track on the album for me. So beautiful and heartwrenching. The lyrics make me cry and the sound sends chills down my spine. The violins astounded me as well. 5/5 +++++++++

Magical Fix - Very catchy and epic sounding song. Takes a while to ease into though. But it will grow on you. A very fine track 4/5

Illumination - Epic long beautiful track that tears at your heart strings and your senses. Great way to end the album 4.5/5

Caprice - The Worst song on the album. Good thing it's only a bonus track. It was bland, dull and did not do the band any favors. 1/5


Vocal Performance: 4.5/5
Instrumental Performance: 5/5
Lyrical Performance: 3.5/5
Overall Feel: 4/5
Total Score: 17/20 (B)
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Re: Well, let's hear your opinions.
« Reply #68 on: 04 April 2011, 07:35:43 »

Some more notes from me:

1. Guess I'm the only man (person) to really dig The Emerald Piper. I think it's an excellent song due to three reasons: a healthy (over)dose of rock and roll power, a nice and catchy melody and great, typically ุsten lyrics with a whiff of his trademark insanity. :) I remember reading comments to Wacken 2009 video and the song was absolutely trashed by the self-appointed "true fans". Making it a bonus track is a smart counter to that - thus abstaining from the song somewhat - but it's a great tune. One comparison I drew was Black Sabbath's Paranoid - something that was hastily cobbled together to fill space, short and catchy, and... has there ever been a Black Sabbath concert without it since 1970?
Ditto Smoke on the Water, by the way - it was considered a throwaway track initially, and if Deep Purple try to get off stage without playing this, the fans wouldn't let them. :)

2. There was something about this album I couldn't put my finger on until recently. Which is, somehow I feel there's not enough guitar on the record at times. That despite the band having two guitar players and Kjetil doubling on acoustic guitar during concerts. Sometimes in live videos, I see the guitarists just standing there, having nothing to do as the song is carried by something else. It seemed rather awkward to me, but that may be subjective since I'm weaned on Black Sabbath and Iron Maiden where the guitar playing is paramount.

3. I learned to live with Patriot Games even though I mentally cried "Sepultura!" when I heard the chorus (don't ask). I can't stand Magical Fix to this day, though. The verse sounds almost like rap to me (again don't ask). Pity as the lyrics are above average (Tarald seems poised to become Tristania's Neil Peart, and I can imagine his role as the lyricist grow, with ุsten bowing out and Kjetil / Mariangela not quite ready - I imagine - to take over.

4. Overall, I wouldn't have minded a bit more fast paced - or at least edgier - songs. Rubicon I think follows Illumination in being mostly an album of softer songs (though 3!!! "Vibeke only" ballads on Illumination really were an overkill; not easily repeatable :)).
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Re: Well, let's hear your opinions.
« Reply #69 on: 04 April 2011, 17:01:05 »

I like The Emerald Piper very much also.  Great catchy riff and melody in the chorus (love Mariangela's vocals), nice uptempo feel in the verse, cool twisty breakdown riff ...

Love Magical Fix, but it is a very different type of song.  The clean chorus vocals, Ole's mainly I think, may not be to everybody's taste.  I don't find the verse too rap-like ;)

Oh, good point about the live shows/guitar arrangements btw, they could maybe look at that.
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Re: Well, let's hear your opinions.
« Reply #70 on: 04 April 2011, 19:01:31 »

Read something that is higher.
Tristania song for me is more to unite all like the dedication of love loving mother, similar to saying to children with the right choice.
Here's an example (immediately apologize for such a view, perhaps the individual, the output below):
Forty, with white sides, soup cooked, four-fed, and the fifth has not given food, he logs in the forest did not go, no chopping wood, fire, not a divorce, the furnace is not stoked.

As a horror movie .)))) But it is very exciting and enjoyable, perhaps the proportion of individual ancient wisdom and customs of us lacking in the Rubicon.

However, the Rubicon is just the beginning. Perhaps a little eating and a little tired of the energy Marie and we cook porridge. :)
Marie, the best national Spaghetti. ;)
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